JANE FONDA
This is a page I have put together to make individuals aware of what some people did during an unpopular war!
It is my opinion and
that of a Vietnam Veteran that Jane Fonda should be tried for TREASON!
Ever since I heard that
Jane Fonda was going over to the enemy and doing acts scandalous to our nation
I have despised her.
Some have said that it
is time to forgive but I cannot do that. If it were myself, or any of my
friends, we would have been
shot as a traitor.
I know of the so-called
apology however I don’t believe it was from her heart and believe she
should dedicate some of her time
to helping our POW/MIA’s to atone for such atrocities.
I feel that there was
a lot of agitators and communist influence causing much of the riots and
mistrust aimed at out nation
during that period of
time. Mind me, I don’t believe this is cause to forgive them for such acts but
it may have not been all their
doing. Many college
students were sheep led to demonstrate and may feel much different now?
Whatever the scenario they did
the wrong thing and
must NEVER FORGET WHAT THEY DID!
Some may say, “Put it to rest”, “That was the past”, “Forget the past” HOWEVER these statements are hard to swallow for those who participated in the Vietnam war and put their life on the line while doing their duty. It may even be harder for those POW’s who were there when the atrocities were committed.
I do not believe that ANY person that may be honored in a TV special called "A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women" should have ANY connection to being a traitor!
YES, It is true, some of the eMails out there push the envelope and add some things that really didn’t happen, but then there are many more that have not been talked about either.
Those of you who want to bring some real facts into hand whether Jane Fonda's actions in North Vietnam fall into the realm of "treason". The 2002 book Aid and Comfort: Jane Fonda in North Vietnam by attorneys Henry Mark Holzer and Erika Holzer, will provide you with the information.
For those who may have
forgotten what Jane Fonda did during this time of Police Action (now called
WAR) I will bring back some
history for you.
Jane Fonda toured
North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in
an orchestrated
"press
conference" with American POWs in 1972. There's no denying that she
defamed POWs by whitewashing the
Viet Cong's treatment of them and later calling
them liars when they spoke out.
As you can see in the below photo's.......Jane was
having a lot of fun with our enemy!
Hanoi Jane's Broadcast from
Hanoi,
on August 22, 1972 from the Hotel Especen;
Hanoi-Vietnam
The following public
domain information is a transcript from the US Congress House Committee on
Internal Security, Travel to Hostile
Areas, HR 16742, 19-25
September, 1972, page 7671. (From the CompuServe Military Veteran's Forum)
[Radio Hanoi attributes talk on DRV visit to
Jane Fonda; from Hanoi in English to American servicemen involved in the
Indochina War,
1 PM GMT, 22 August 1972. Text: Here's Jane
Fonda telling her impressions at the end of her visit to the Democratic
Republic of Vietnam;
(follows
recorded female voice with American accent)
This is Jane Fonda. During my two-week visit in
the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, I've had the opportunity to visit a great
many places
and speak to a large number of people from all
walks of life-workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians,
journalists, film actresses,
soldiers, militia girls, members of the women's
union, writers.
I visited the (Dam Xuac) agricultural
coop, where the silk worms are also raised and thread is made. I visited a
textile factory, a kindergarten in Hanoi. The beautiful Temple of Literature
was where I saw traditional dances and heard songs of resistance. I also saw
unforgettable ballet about the guerrillas training bees in the south to attack
enemy soldiers. The bees were danced by women, and they did their job well.
In the shadow of the Temple of Literature
I saw Vietnamese actors and actresses perform the second act of Arthur Miller's
play All My Sons, and this was very moving to me-the fact that artists here are
translating and performing American plays while US imperialists are bombing
their country.
I cherish the memory of the blushing
militia girls on the roof of their factory, encouraging one of their sisters as
she sang a song praising the blue sky of Vietnam-these women, who are so gentle
and poetic, whose voices are so beautiful, but who, when American planes are
bombing their city, become such good fighters.
I cherish the way a farmer evacuated from
Hanoi, without hesitation, offered me, an American, their best individual bomb
shelter while US bombs fell near by. The daughter and I, in fact, shared the
shelter wrapped in each others arms, cheek against cheek. It was on the road
back from Nam Dinh, where I had witnessed the systematic destruction of
civilian targets-schools, hospitals, pagodas, the factories, houses, and the
dike system.
As I left the United States two weeks
ago, Nixon was again telling the American people that he was winding down the
war, but in the rubble-strewn streets of Nam Dinh, his words echoed with
sinister (words indistinct) of a true killer. And like the young Vietnamese
woman I held in my arms clinging to me tightly-and I pressed my cheek against
hers-I thought, this is a war against Vietnam perhaps, but the tragedy is
America's.
One thing that I have learned beyond a shadow
of a doubt since I've been in this country is that Nixon will never be able to
break the spirit of these people; he'll never be able to turn Vietnam, north
and south, into a neo-colony of the United States by bombing, by invading, by
attacking in any way. One has only to go into the countryside and listen to the
peasants describe the lives they led before the revolution to understand why
every bomb that is dropped only strengthens their determination to resist.
I've spoken to many peasants who talked
about the days when their parents had to sell themselves to landlords as
virtually slaves, when there were very few schools and much illiteracy,
inadequate medical care, when they were not masters of their own lives.
But now, despite the bombs, despite the
crimes being created-being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these
people own their own land, build their own schools-the children learning,
literacy- illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there
was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people
have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own
lives.
And after 4,000 years of struggling against
nature and foreign invaders-and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of
struggling against French colonialism-I don't think that the people of Vietnam
are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and
independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read
Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry
written by Ho Chi Minh.
[end of recording]
In 1988,
16 years after her tour of Hanoi when she made her famous radio broadcast and
had her picture taken behind the anti- aircraft guns that were shooting down US
pilots, Jane Fonda appeared on 20/20 and was interviewed by Barbara Walters.
The timing of the interview is interesting. Jane Fonda was making a movie in
New England and the movie's production schedule was seriously interrupted by
demonstrations from angry Vietnam Veterans. Jane Fonda's participation in the
interview may have been an attempt to help appease the angry protestors.
Two versions of this
interview exist, one an actual transcript, the other a press release.
The transcript
reads:
Barbara Walters:
"There are still people who . . . I
guess, feel you have never apologized. Would you like to just say something to
them now?"
Jane Fonda:
"Well . . . it's not . . . I would like to say something not just to . . . the Vietnam veterans . . . in New England . . . but . . . to . . . to men who were in Vietnam who . . . who I hurt . . . or who's pain I caused to . . .deepen because of things I said . . . or did . . . I . . . I feel that I owe them an apology . . . my intentions were never to hurt them . . . or to make their situation worse, it was . . . it was the contrary . . . I was trying to help end the war . . . but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I . . . and I am very sorry . . . that I hurt them . . . and I want to apologize to them and to their families . . . "
This was released to
the media:
"I would like to say something, not just
to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt,
or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did,"
Fonda said. "I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there
were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm . . . very
sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families."
DOES THIS APOLOGY
GIVE YOU WARM FUZZIES? DO YOU WANT TO FORGIVE HER NOW??
Well, It sure does
nothing for me and her statement is truly not from the heart!!
No this caused the
making of things like Hanoi Jane urinal targets, as seen below….
MORE INFO:
The below photo shows
that Hanoi Jane was likely to get arrested occasionally also…..
In 1970 while
speaking to college students she was quoted as saying:
"Its my fondest wish, that some day, every
American
will get down on their knees and pray to God that some day
they will have the opportunity to live in a Communist Society."
Another Fact:
To get an idea for the
extent of Hanoi Jane's obsession with Communism, you have to understand how she
chose her son's name. Hanoi Jane returned to Vietnam shortly after the war
ended in 1975, with her small son, Troy, to attend a special service being held
in her honor. This event was not just to recognize and honor Hanoi Jane. Her
newborn son was formally christened and named for the Communist hero Nguyen Van
Troi. Troi was a Viet Cong Sapper who was executed by the South Vietnamese in
1963 for attempting to assassinate U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara.
NOW it is my opinion that she should be
charged with TREASON.
Here are a couple of definitions of Treason “SEE
what you think”:
MODERN AMERICAN LAW OF TREASON
Not until 1945 did the
Supreme Court of the United States review a treason conviction. Cramer v.
United States, 325 U.S. 1 (1945) was the first, followed by seven others: Haupt
v. United States, 330 U.S. 631 (1947), Chandler v. United States, 171 F.2d 921
(1st Cir. 1948), Gillars v. United States, 182 F.2d 962 (1950), Best v. United
States, 184 F.2d 131 (1st Cir. 1950), Burgman v. United States, 188 F.2d 637
(D.C. Cir. 1951), D'Aquino v. United States, 192 F.2d 338 (9 Cir. 1951),
Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952).
Cumulatively, these
eight decisions arising from World War II established that to take a treason
indictment to a jury the prosecution must prove four elements:
(1) an
overt act,
(2) testified
to by two witnesses,
(3) manifesting
an intent to betray the United States (which can be
inferred from the overt act itself),
(4) which
act provided aid and comfort to the enemy.
Treason.
A breach of allegiance to one's government,
usually committed through levying war against such government or by giving aid
or comfort to the enemy.
The offense of attempting by overt acts to
overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance; or
of betraying the state into the hands of a foreign power.
Treason consists of two elements: adherence to
the enemy, and rendering him aid and comfort.
Cramer v. U. S., U.S.N.Y., 325 U.S. l, 65 S.Ct.
918, 9327 89 L.Ed. 1441. See 18 U.S.C.A. 2381. A person can be convicted
of treason only on the testimony of two witnesses, or confession in open court.
Art. III, Sec. 3, U.S. Constitution.
Constructive treason.
Treason imputed to a person by law from his conduct or course of actions,
though his deeds taken severally do not amount to actual treason. This doctrine
is not known in the United States.
High treason.
In English law, treason against the king or sovereign, as distinguished from
petit or petty treason, which might formerly be committed against a subject.
Misprision of treason.
See Misprision of treason.
Petit treason.
In old English law, the crime committed by a wife in killing her husband, or a
servant his lord or master, or an ecclesiastic his lord or ordinary. 4 Bi,
Comm. 75.
Treason-felony.
Under the English statute 11 & 12 Vict., c. 12, passed in 1848, is the
offense of compassing, devising, etc., to depose her majesty from the crown; or
to levy war in order to intimidate either house of parliament, etc., or to stir
up foreigners by any printing or writing to invade the kingdom. This offense is
punishable with penal servitude for life, or for any term not less than five
years, etc., under statutes 11 & 12 Vict., c. 12, § 3; 20 & 21 Vict.,
c. 3, § 2; 27 & 28 Vict., c. 47, § 2. By the statute first above mentioned,
the government is enabled to treat as felony many offenses which must formerly
have been treated as high treason.
Treasonable.
Having the nature or guilt of treason.
SOURCE’s: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
